you have cia and fbi. the fbi is a tremendous partner in the homeland. they do great work. our job is to give them the information we see coming from overseas into the united states. nsa is a tremendous foreign intelligence capability to see things that are going on in the united states and help people understand what that means. the fbi is pretty busy. they have a lot of stuff going on. if you see something critical, we can tell he -- tell them that piece of information is critical, go after that first. that helps them. it helps us. guest: as i said, the idea that they're going to help the fbi by logging every phone call made by every american, which they did and do as far as i know, i do not see how that is helping the fbi. it is almost as though the nsa is saying we're art -- we are doing this because we can. not because it is necessary. host: brookfield, connecticut, independent caller. hi phil. caller: one of my favorite books was i chose freedom. i was wondering if you had ever run into the author or knew of his work? guest: i've heard of the book, but i have not met